[lxc-users] discuss.linuxcontainers.org experiment

Iain Grant iain at panfantastic.co.uk
Tue Apr 25 20:29:42 UTC 2017


Seriously?  Ubuntu Advantage?

Who really needs that If you have a good sysadmin team...?

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:09 PM, Sean McNamara <smcnam at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ron,
>
> If you are using LXD as part of line of business or mission critical
> infrastructure for an enterprise, I would have expected that you would
> already have purchased a comprehensive Ubuntu Advantage support plan
> from Canonical. That's the most reliable way to get relevant,
> up-to-date, "official" advice from Canonical as to best practices and
> usability tips.
>
> The point of Ubuntu Advantage is that you're getting "official" help
> from the source, and IIRC it comes with a response time SLA so you can
> be sure that if the developers get busy with deadlines, you'll still
> get a response within X hours/days.
>
> Full disclosure: I used to be an Ubuntu Advantage customer, and had a
> good experience, but I have no financial or social incentive to
> promote a Canonical offering... I just think it'd be good to have if
> you don't have it already. And if you do have it, use it!
>
> You can also ask on Discourse or the mailing list, but keep in mind
> that Discourse and the mailing list are open to the user community, so
> you're going to get "unofficial" responses that might be wrong or not
> applicable to your situation (such as mine ;)).
>
> To me, it would be a little weird to have some sort of officially
> blessed set of Canonical-only official posts on the Discourse. Isn't
> the purpose of the Discourse to be open to the community? (Including
> posts by core devs, who might be Canonical employees, but are speaking
> on behalf of themselves as an individual, not on behalf of the
> company.)
>
> If having the official advice of the company as a legal entity is
> critical to you, I can only give you a positive endorsement of Ubuntu
> Advantage as a fellow customer.
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:01 PM, Ron Kelley <rkelleyrtp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Stéphane,
> >
> > Thanks for setting up the discussion group.  I just joined…
> >
> > As a suggestion, it would be great if we could have an official “best
> practices” section supported/endorsed by the Canonical team.  Or, a section
> whereby people can contribute their designs and others can add their
> viewpoints.  I know many people use LXC/LXD for home/personal use, but many
> of use are using this technology in data center production environments.
> >
> > Some ideas off the top of my head:
> > * How to manage tens/hundreds of LXD servers (single host, multi-host,
> or multi-geo locations)
> > * How to quickly find mis-behaving containers (consuming too much
> resources, etc)
> > * How to get container run-time stats per LXD server
> > * Best practices when backing up, restoring, cloning containers
> > * Best practices when deploying containers (same UID, different UID per
> container, etc)
> >
> > As we adopt LXD more and more in our DC designs, it becomes increasingly
> important for our organization to leverage best practices from the industry
> experts.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Ron
> >
> >
> > On Apr 25, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Stéphane Graber <stgraber at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey there,
> >>
> >> We know that not everyone enjoys mailing-lists and searching through
> >> mailing-list archives and would rather use a platform that's dedicated
> >> to discussion and support.
> >>
> >> We don't know exactly how many of you would prefer using something like
> >> that instead of the mailing-list or how many more people are out there
> >> who would benefit from such a platform.
> >>
> >> But we're giving it a shot and will see how things work out over the
> >> next couple of months. If we see little interest, we'll just kill it off
> >> and revert to using just the lxc-users list. If we see it take off, we
> >> may start recommending it as the preferred place to get support and
> >> discuss LXC/LXD/LXCFS.
> >>
> >>
> >> The new site is at: https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org
> >>
> >>
> >> We support both Github login as well as standalone registration, so that
> >> should make it easy for anyone interested to be able to post questions
> >> and content.
> >>
> >> The site is configured to self-moderate, so active users who post good
> >> content and help others will automatically get more privileges. That
> >> should let the community shape how this space works rather than have me
> >> and the core team babysit it :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Discourse (the engine we use for this) supports notifications by e-mail
> >> as well as responses and topic creation by e-mail. So for those of you
> >> who don't like dealing with web stuff, you can tweak the e-mail settings
> >> in your account and then interact with it almost entirely through
> >> e-mails.
> >>
> >> Just a note on that bit, the plaintext version of those e-mails isn't so
> >> great right now, it's not properly wrapped, contains random spacing and
> >> the occasional html. I subscribed myself to receive all notifications
> >> and will try to tweak the discourse e-mail code for those of us who use
> >> mutt or other text-based clients.
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway, please feel free to post your questions over there, share
> >> stories on what you're doing with LXC/LXD/LXCFS, ...
> >>
> >> We just ask that bug reports remain on Github. If a support question
> >> turns out to be a bug, we'll file one for you on Github or ask for you
> >> to go file one there (similar to what we've been doing on this list).
> >>
> >>
> >> Hope this is a useful addition to our community!
> >>
> >> Stéphane
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