[Lxc-users] Docker

[Bretton Woods]

Yeah I agree docker is just a wrapper but that one element does actually make a world of difference.

I think docker should continue with a higher level of abstraction to make containers like vapour in a cloud.

My opinion is that something like the below is a really essential part of the jigsaw for LXC and some of the other parts of Docker I don't really want.

lxc-create --pull git -n name
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>lxc-clone --push git -n name
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>When I saw docker it was just one of those Eureka moments where you question why are we stuck with a closed amount of templates? Why not a url ?
>It reminds me of LTSP where the template scripts where always problematic as each distro was forced with their maintenance.
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>There are two things I am certain about one is the above and also like Docker.IO LXC needs a home LXC-Planet for want of a better name.
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>I am a big fan of adaptations of social media and as a consultant and not a programmer I have been frustrated not to be able to find a good social collaboration site.
>I am also a big fan of Eric Redmond  http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/homesteading/homesteading/ar01s06.html
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>"The simplest way is the command hierarchy. In command hierarchies, scarce goods are allocated by one central authority and backed up by force. Command hierarchies scale very poorly [Mal]; they become increasingly brutal and inefficient as they get larger. For this reason, command hierarchies above the size of an extended family are almost always parasites on a larger economy of a different type. In command hierarchies, social status is primarily determined by access to coercive power."

Dunno if anybody has had any dealings with oxwall.org and I apologise but I believe in unstructured peer review meritocracies for the purpose of social collaboration.
One day I will think of a snappier name :) but oxwall.org would be a good base to do something like that.
Its missing a googlesque voting mechanism on contribution, but one day ;)

I do think an LXC-Planet would be good for a collection of idea's submissions of poly-distro acceptance.

Bretton. 


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 From: Robin Monjo <robin.monjo at applidget.com>
To: Bretton Woods <woods.bretton at yahoo.co.uk> 
Cc: "lxc-users at lists.sourceforge.net" <lxc-users at lists.sourceforge.net> 
Sent: Friday, 26 July 2013, 19:26
Subject: Re: [Lxc-users] Docker
 


Actually, docker and LXC are two difference projects maintained by two different groups of people. So it has not "moved" to docker.

I have studied docker source code, and there is nothing they do you can't do using LXC and basic bash commands (except for their repository). You can think about docker as a wrapper of LXC serving the purpose of process isolation for the cloud computing world.

Both LXC and docker have different end goals so it's hard to compare them. One thing: docker doesn't use template explicitly but images pulled by docker are basically images created by a LXC template. So docker replaced lxc-create (that generate an OS)  by docker pull (that go get an OS over the network)


On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Bretton Woods <woods.bretton at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

There is one thing about Docker that I really, really like and my main question is why has it moved to docker when it should be a native LXC command
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>lxc-create --pull git -n name
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>lxc-clone --push git -n name
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>I think you get it whatever the semantics. That is a really good idea and LXC is actually looking a bit lame being stuck to these templates that are maintained in a closed source manner!
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>I guess there should be some talks about how that would pull config and fstab and mount mounts...
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>What I feel about docker is that it is LXC vs Docker its just why Docker when all I need is the above two commands?
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