[lxc-users] Creating a container as non root

Wed Aug 6 00:26:04 UTC 2014

(sorry hit return too fast).

Also turns out that the sudo -shU trick doesn't work, results in;

deploy$ lxc-start -n u1
lxc_container: call to cgmanager_create_sync failed: invalid request

Found another semi related ticket;
https://github.com/lxc/lxc/issues/181

Cal

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:24 AM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] <
cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk> wrote:

> Sure;
>
> deploy$ echo $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
> /run/user/999
> deploy$ echo $HOME
> /home/deploy
>
> deploy$ cat /proc/self/cgroup
> 11:hugetlb:/
> 10:perf_event:/
> 9:blkio:/
> 8:freezer:/
> 7:devices:/
> 6:memory:/
> 5:cpuacct:/
> 4:cpu:/
> 3:cpuset:/
> 2:name=systemd:/user/999.user/5.session
>
> Expected uid is 1000 (deploy) but its showing 999 (admin).
>
>
> Cal
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:22 AM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Quoting Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] (
>> cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk):
>> > Just wanted to chime in on this, it would seem that creating
>> unprivileged
>> > containers works fine, at least for download template of Ubuntu.
>> >
>> > However the problem starts when you use "sudo su".
>> >
>> > For example, the following breaks;
>> >
>> > admin$ sudo su deploy
>> > admin$ lxc-create -t download -n u1 -- -d ubuntu -r trusty -a amd64
>> > lxc-create: Permission denied - failed to create directory
>> > '/run/user/999/lock/'
>>
>> From this shell, what do 'echo $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR' and 'echo $HOME' say?
>>
>> > lxc-create: Error opening /tmp/1000/lxc//home/deploy/.local/share/lxc/u1
>> >
>> > But the following works;
>> >
>> > admin$ ssh deploy at 127.0.0.1
>> > admin$ lxc-create -t download -n u1 -- -d ubuntu -r trusty -a amd64
>> > Setting up the GPG keyring
>> > Downloading the image index
>> >
>> > It would seem that lxc-create is picking up a uid 999 (admin) for the
>> lock,
>> > and uid 1000 (deploy) for the tmp directory.
>> >
>> > I had a quick look at the source but couldn't pin point where/why this
>> was
>> > happening.
>> >
>> > Although there are other issues with creating unprivileged containers
>> (as
>> > per your previous discussion), this is probably a bug in its own rights.
>> >
>> > Thoughts?
>> >
>> > Cal
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn at ubuntu.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sounds good.  It might be worthwhile having a 'lxc-setup-images'
>> command
>> > > which requires root and builds the base images.  Then unprileged users
>> > > could untar/unsquash those images.
>> > >
>> > > To be clear, I absolutely *can* create and run ubuntu-cloud images
>> > > without being root.
>> > >
>> > > -serge
>> > >
>> > > Quoting Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] (
>> > > cal.leeming at simplicitymedialtd.co.uk):
>> > > > It's also worth mentioning that fakeroot/fakechroot have some nasty
>> > > issues
>> > > > with debootstrap;
>> > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fakechroot/+bug/1265857
>> > > >
>> > > > One theory I'm exploring is building "base images" on a machine
>> that does
>> > > > have root, by running debootstrap on every flavor/arch then using
>> > > > mksquashfs to compress it down into an image. You could then use
>> > > unsquashfs
>> > > > to force whatever uid/gid you wanted, then fakechroot/fakeroot to
>> make
>> > > > whatever changes you need to the container before launching. The
>> downside
>> > > > is that there is no public mirror that offers this at the moment
>> (other
>> > > > than the latest 13.x ubuntu, which contains a filesystem.squashfs
>> you can
>> > > > extract, but it's 700mb). You could create your own set of base
>> images,
>> > > > then wrap scripts around them to create the templates, but this is
>> > > > absolutely not going to work out of the box, there is a lot of
>> tedious
>> > > work
>> > > > involved.
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm planning on doing a better write up about this (as its
>> something I'm
>> > > > actively working on), will update this thread at a later date.
>> > > >
>> > > > Hope this helps a bit
>> > > >
>> > > > Cal
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Michael H. Warfield <
>> mhw at wittsend.com
>> > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 08:08 +0200, Kevin Wilson wrote:
>> > > > > > Hello,
>> > > > > > I believe that creating a container as non root user should be
>> > > > > straight-forward.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sigh...  I'm afraid not...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Funny, Serge and I just had a couple of comments in exchange
>> about this
>> > > > > very thing with regards to templates.  He's been working on
>> getting
>> > > > > containers to run under unprivileged users and I know the Fedora
>> and
>> > > > > CentOS templates will not even run under a non-user (they check).
>>  His
>> > > > > remark was that most templates will not and can not, including the
>> > > > > Ubuntu template.  Problem with the Ubuntu template (and,
>> presumably the
>> > > > > Debian template) is the use of debboot which, in turn, uses mknod
>> to
>> > > > > create devices for the container - and you're then toast.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > The problem there is that there are going to be privileged
>> operations
>> > > > > (chown, mknod, etc) that are simply going to require privileges
>> in the
>> > > > > host which are not available to the non-priv user.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'm not so sure about the busybox template but I wouldn't be
>> > > optimistic.
>> > > > > It does look like it checks to see if it's in a user namespace
>> and uses
>> > > > > mknod if not and does something else if it is.  So, it looks like
>> it
>> > > > > SHOULD work.  But you have to have user namespaces set up to work.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Once a container is created, it should be possible to run it
>> under a
>> > > > > non-priv user if you have a recent enough kernel along with the
>> latest
>> > > > > lxc tools.  But it seems likely we could ever navigate the morass
>> of
>> > > > > creating a template using lxc-create as a non-priv user.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > I added a user named "test" and I am trying to create a
>> container
>> > > (see
>> > > > > > below the sequence). I am running latest lxc git
>> > > > > > (built from source, as root)  on Fedora 20.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > useradd test
>> > > > > > su test
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > lxc-create -t busybox -n busyboxTest
>> > > > > > I get:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > You lack access to /home/test/.local/share/lxc/
>> > > > > > I ran;
>> > > > > > mkdir -p /home/test/.local/share/lxc/
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Then again:
>> > > > > > lxc-create -t busybox -n busyboxTest
>> > > > > > lxc-create: Permission denied - failed to create directory
>> > > > > '/run/user/0/lock/'
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > failed to create lock
>> > > > > > System error loading container
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > What should I do ?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > Kevin
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > Mike
>> > > > > --
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