[Lxc-users] Dynamic devices...
C Anthony Risinger
extofme at gmail.com
Sun Mar 7 05:21:44 UTC 2010
What does udev listen to while under container (or host)? Is it
possible to generate events from a host process to each containerized
udevd, and let udevd do it's job? I'm not familiar; a "spoofed"
kernel event generator of sorts
On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:49 AM, "Michael H. Warfield" <mhw at WittsEnd.com>
wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> This is sort of a jump ball for both the OpenVZ camp and the LXC camp.
> Maybe some food for thought as well. I think it's something that
> needs
> to be thought out.
>
> I know udev does not work in containers. Neither OpenVZ nor LXC. Ok,
> fine. So devices are static. Problem is that I've got a situation
> where I need dynamic devices, specifically some USB devices.
>
> I have an 8 port serial to USB converter used for controlling the
> serial
> consoles of a cluster of remote servers. So ttyS0 on each server is
> hooked to a port on the controller and configured for serial console
> (they also have serial BIOS console redirection as well - very VERY
> nice
> for remote management where you don't have a remote IP KVM).
>
> That converter then plugs into a USB sharing device which shares the
> converter between 4 of the servers. So... Any one of the four
> servers
> can take control of the converter and can then access all of the 8
> serial consoles for all of the servers. Nice redundancy.
>
> I want to grant access to that subsystem to selected containers so
> certain administrators can be given their very own container and be
> able
> to access the host consoles over serial ports, then. Simple so far.
> Just allow those containers access to the usbsharing device and the
> ttyUSB* devices.
>
> Here's where the rub comes in. The way the USB sharing device works.
> Any server which does NOT have the consoles sees a USB hiddev device
> (it
> looks like an USB human input device). It accesses that device to
> request (or demand) control of the controlled USB devices. The server
> with the consoles, does NOT see that device at all. What it does see
> are the controlled USB devices (the ttyUSB* devices in this case)
> which
> the other servers do NOT see. So the logic goes that if you see the
> usbsharing device, you do not have the consoles but may request
> them. If
> you do NOT have the usb sharing device you should have the ttyUSB*
> devices and may access them. So those devices come and go
> dynamically.
>
> How to do this in a container?
>
> (Yes, obviously, I can try to open the device and get an error. But,
> really... That's an ugly answer.)
>
> I suppose I can apply the dynamics in the udev rules in the host
> machine
> and create matching devices in the container's dev directory using a
> hot
> plug run script. That's what I'm working on now. Is that really the
> answer though?
>
> Just food for thought for developers and users alike. There has to be
> more situations that just this.
>
> Regards,
> Mike
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